
Toronto,
ON - Every time I do a new interview with a
Canadian entrepreneur, I am astonished at how
driven, goal oriented and how dedicated people
are to make it. I have had the opportunity to
sit down with some good people and really see
what inspires them, and sitting down with RT!
has made me a believer.
RT! is one of Canada's most successful video
directors and he is leaping forward the industry
at an unstoppable pace. Having already gained
national and international success, RT! is only
buoyant to work harder and to take his career
further.
He is responsible for giving the world a look
at great Canadian talent like Point Blank, Neverending
White Lights, Graph Nobel, Kardinal Offishall,
Massari, Divine Brown, Choclair and Shawn Desman.
In the last year alone he's worked with International
talents Talib Kweli and Sean Paul.
RT! took home 4 MuchMusic
Video Awards including Director of the
Year, and was nominated for 12 awards in total
at this year's MMVA's. He has also been nominated
and won at the 2006 Urban World Film Festival
in New York for the past couple of years, and
has been a nominee at the MMVA's since his first
video.
RT! has already accomplished a variety of goals
as a video director, but his success story has
just only begun. We welcome you to watch the
video as RT! speaks to HipHopCanada.com about
his career, the Canadian industry as well as
the music videos he has been behind.
HHC: How did you first
get into video directing, what was the process
that got you into it?
I have always been interested in story telling
and drawing and so I was always big into arts.
What I was aiming to do with my life as I was
growing up was to do animation. I love cartoons
so I went to Sheridan for a year and wasted
my whole year there. Gave up drawing, didn't
feel like drawing anymore, so I took time off
and decided to re-assess myself. During that
time I realized that I kind of wanted to do
something in film because I like movies. If
you think about it, there is a correlation between
animation, cartoons, storytelling and directing.
In cartoons the animator is creating a world
and drawing it, and in directing you're kind
of doing the same thing, but with real people.
Then I went in to Ryerson and after I got there
I melded the two loves together.
HHC: You have worked extensively
in television serving as an Assistant Producer
of the MuchMoreMusic Countdown at CHUM for two
years. How did you score that?
When I got out of Ryerson I started working
at HMV. I had a friend who was a floor director
at Much and I was like, "Dude, I want to
come in and try to get in the building."
He said to just go and intern with him, help
around and when they see me enough, they'll
probably just hire me eventually. That's what
I did and that's what ended up happening. I
would work at HMV and go there after work, and
eventually they took me on as the floor director
on the famous Electric Circus. Then that was
it. From there I moved up and eventually became
the assistant producer at the Much More Music
Countdown.
HHC: Great. How was the
experience?
Everyone who wants to be in the entertainment
wants to go through that building, so it was
great. Once you get in there they let you experiment
and do whatever. If you want to try editing,
then go ahead. Also, because I was the assistant
producer, I had to watch a lot of videos and
I really enjoyed that. I did a lot of research
and I'd sit there hours after work and watch
videos and analyze them. How things were shot,
colors used etc. which really helped me in my
development.
HHC: Were you also directing
videos at the time?
Yes I was. I knew I didn't just want to be assistant
producer at Much, so I was doing my thing on
the side as well. I wanted to be creative.
HHC: What was the first video you directed?
First video I directed was for my man G Stokes
called "Rock the Block".
HHC: What was the concept for the video?
It was a party track, but I didn't really want
to do a club video. I did this really different
idea. It's very surreal life type. It's a group
of guys and a group of girls fighting over a
parking space. They get into a battle of sports.
Makes no sense, but it was cool. You'd have
to see it. I got my first MuchMusic nomination
with that.
HHC: Do you look back
at videos? Compare maybe the way you used to
work before?
You know what? I just did that the other day.
I looked at some of the old stuff. I think they're
all pretty good. There are ones that are of
course not so great (Laughing).
HHC: How have your concepts changed your techniques?
I definitely changed some of the techniques
and lighting styles that I used, but there's
a thread that it's in some of my work.
HHC: Can you tell if you were to watch the videos?
Is there anything in particular about your videos
that people can identify as yours?
In my videos I try to create a world around
the artist, and then put him/her right in the
middle. This is a world you won't see anywhere
else, that is tailored to the artist and to
that particular song. It can be anything from
everyone wearing the color red, to creating
a world of angels and devils, etc. The video
also has to feel like the song. It absolutely
has to.
HHC: You also worked as Segment Producer on
SunTV's multi-ethnic profile series Echo for
its entire run. Tell me more about it. What
were some of the highlights of the show?
Echo is a great show that airs on SunTV and
the main producer of it worked at Much for a
little bit of time. She called me up and asked
me if I wanted to do it, and that was it. At
that point, I was also doing my videos on the
side, and it was getting to a point where I
was too busy, so I decided to leave MuchMusic
and take the new opportunity. The show profiled
ethnic Canadians, various races and not just
entertainers. It was cool just following different
people and hearing their stories. It was different.
HHC: What is your goal
as a director? Where do you see yourself in
the next few years, or better yet, what is success
to you?
Success to me is on two levels. As a director,
if I am working on an individual project with
somebody, success to me is that this world that
I create fits their song, feels like their song
and it is representative of them as an artist.
My goals in life are to tell stories, become
a filmmaker, holding my craft as a filmmaker
and hopefully doing feature films and stuff.
HHC: Anything you regret doing in the past?
That has maybe slowed you down in reaching your
ultimate goal?
I wouldn't say that I regret anything. I am
sure there's stuff I do that slows me down.
I'm not always out there, a schmooze type dude.
I'm a much more low key type of guy who likes
to chill with his friends, so I am sure that
gets in the way. You can't do too much of that:
care too much of what people say and care too
much about where you have to be. Then you find
yourself back. If one day you feel a little
lazy, feel a little lazy; just make sure you
pick it up the next day.
HHC: Who are some of your biggest influences?
Work that you admire?
In terms of other filmmakers, you have: Little
X, Hype Williams, Mark Romanek (king of videos
for me), Francis Lawrence, Spike Jones. Then
you have Spike Lee, John Woo, Tarantino, Fellini,
and Hitchcock. These are people that made things
that impacted me and made me want to do better.
In terms of specific videos, half of Mark Romanek's
stuff; the first Lenny Kravitz video he did
is a classic video. I like Jay Z - "99
Problems", Hype Williams directed Busta
Rhymes - "Put your hands where my eyes
can see". Then Little X came with that
whole piece-editing thing where the images start
piecing away. He did that with "Can't Deny
it" by Nate Dogg and Fabolous. I also like
a lot of foreign films. I like contemporary
films too, but I like a lot of foreign films.
Hero, Seven Samurais, Citizen Kane, Do the right
thing are classic movies. Good action flicks
are good too. I like everything. There's stuff
coming out now that is beautiful for what it
is.
HHC: What is the latest
movie you watched in theatre?
Maybe the latest thing I seen was the Superman
flick. I was just in Italy, so I haven't had
a chance to go to the movies lately, but I will
be checking a bunch of stuff out at the Film
Festival. I'm watching like 10 films next week.
HHC: Music wise? What
do you listen to?
Nowadays I love my old soul: Sam Cook, Marvin
Gaye. I like a lot of rock: The Killers, Beck,
U2, Abba; atmospheric shit. Hip-hop wise in
Toronto I like: King Reign, Saukrates, Mayhem,
Cadence Weapon, Kardi and The Blackjays, Jay
Diggz. I like people who do different things
or come out truthfully like JB or Jelleestone.
HHC: What is your take
on hip-hop in Canada; music, production, film?
I think that Canada has got a great hip-hop
scene/music scene in general. It's unfortunate
that they don't get recognized well enough here.
We have the creativity. We just have a hard
time with the business side. I think that's
a major problem because a lot of people here
don't know how to handle their business properly
and that gets in the way of us not being represented
properly. In addition to that we have a bad
infrastructure. We have no media here. There
is no media that grabs hold of upcoming stars.
Yes there is a little bit of TV, but it's not
on the level that is in the States. New music
that comes out in the States is on 20 different
channels, 20 different magazine covers, and
they're playing across the country on the radio.
We've got nothing like that
MuchMusic,
MTV (they don't play any videos) and that's
about it. We have no magazines PERIOD. Someone
comes out in the States; they're on Rolling
Stone, Vibe, The Source, Entertainment Weekly,
Scratch, and Complex etc. If I was walking by
a magazine stand and I didn't know someone's
album was dropping this day, I would know because
I would see them on 20 different magazine covers
and I would be able to know about them and read
about them. Here an album drops, no one knows.
And you know nothing about the artist, so you
don't even know whether to buy their stuff or
not.

HHC:
Here most magazines would probably put an American
artist on the cover dropping that day because
it would probably sell more.
Of course they would! I think that's a major
problem. And the radio is like, you have one
station in your city and there are no other
affiliates. It's great that they play it, but
it's not like they're playing it in Winnipeg
or Vancouver.
HHC: Unless you go physically
there and try to access the different cities
yourself
Yes of course. So with that said, we're lacking
in the business aspect of things. However, it
doesn't mean that you can't succeed. It just
means that you have to figure it out. Examine
the people who have succeeded and try to make
it happen. If you're talking about success in
the past that I was a part of, then you're talking
about someone like Massari. Those guys were
successful in doing something that has never
been done in Canada before and blowing it up.
Yes, they had money, but they didn't just go
and buy off everyone. Yes, they spent a lot
of money on their videos, but they didn't just
stop there. They put just as much money into
the business aspect of it: putting packages
together, getting the correct team together.
They went and got a company to handle their
marketing and made sure that these people were
all flying to different places and presenting
their projects. It was all these things that
made them a success. They really came at it
like a business. This can't be like a basement
production.
HHC: And even if it's
not on that level, you know flying people out
and stuff; it can be the same technique.
Exactly. Studying the success stories before
you is the best advice I can give to anyone
in this industry.
HHC: Do you think we have
progressed in the industry or not, in terms
of the hip-hop artists? Do you think hip-hop
artists coming out in the previous years were
being recognized all across the country, and
now we're lacking in that? Or we are still on
the same level?
I think it's a different level. Back then record
companies were signing everyone. Everyone in
The Circle got a record deal. At the same time
it's like, "was that the golden era for
Canadian hip-hop?" Yes they got signed
and there was a little money spent, but they
fell off really quickly. Now you're looking
at a time period where the net is more prevalent
in helping artists. A lot of artists are also
realizing that a lot of labels are not too sure
if they know how to deal with hip-hop artists
too good. I mean look at Capital Prophets again,
not to toot their horn too much. They went at
it independent and went past what any record
label has done for any Canadian urban artist.
Is a record label that important nowadays? Maybe
not if you have your business together and you're
handling it properly. It's a different time.
There's a lot more artists getting that first
showing. Every day I'm hearing about new hip-hop
artists from Canada. Before it was like 5 guys
and now everyone is trying to do their thing.
It's definitely a different time.
HHC: What do you think
of VideoFact? Do you think it helps artists
to work harder and get a grant for their video,
or do you think it makes them lazier in the
sense that they don't have to work as hard to
put a video out because they can just depend
on the grant?
I personally think that VideoFact is the greatest
thing. I think we are probably the only country
in the world to give grants to artists and say:
"Here
make a free music video."
HHC: How is $20,000 for
a music video?
It's not very much money. VideoFact is not there
to fund your whole video. It funds half your
video. It's reasonable for half of a simple
music video. You should be operating with about
40 - 50 G's. That will give you a comfortable
video
maybe. I think it's a beautiful
thing. My career was built off of VideoFact.
As Little X and any other director coming out
of Canada will tell you, you use Videofact to
get on your feet and try new stuff. I think
it's very important and needed. To use an analogy,
it's like food stamps. Are food stamps good
or are they bad? They're good if they feed a
family and stop a baby from dying. It's a bad
thing when 4 generations of a family have been
living off of food stamps. That's not because
of the food stamps. That's because of lazy ass
motherfuckers. Is VideoFact bad because it gives
you money? If you can take that money and put
it into something that you can use, then it's
wicked. But if you got ten videofacts and no
album, they're not the problem. The problem
is you. You should be hustling and trying not
to use VideoFact.
HHC: Do you think it is
okay for artists to use money that VideoFact
may give them to put it into the business aspect
of their music?
It would be impossible to do that. The way VideoFact
works is that you have to have a video to get
it. You have to do the video and then they pay
you back.
HHC: So you have to have
20 G's up front?
Well production companies will front that money.
Production companies like mine will front that
money for you and then they will get it back.
But you should have 20 G's as well to match
it, so that you have a $40,000 video. But there
is no money being given so you can't take it
and put it into something else.
HHC: What in your opinion
would make a bad video?
In general what I think makes a bad video; it's
when it doesn't feel like the song. It has to
feel like the song in some respect. If you turn
off the song and you start watching the visuals
and you can't feel what the song playing underneath
is, then it might be a problem. If you're talking
about in Canada, a bad video comes out when
you're trying to do more than you can actually
do. That's a problem in Canada because a lot
of artists will look at American videos and
say "oh wow I want this and this and this,"
without realizing that the videos they are watching
are 20 times the budget. No word of a lie
half a million dollars to 200-300 thousand dollars.
The result is that the video comes off looking
tacky. You want to do a club scene and they
get all their friends together and go in the
basement of their house to shoot it, it's not
looking right. You do what you can do on your
budget; you don't try to show your whole life
on the video.
HHC: What's the lowest
budget that you've ever worked with?
The very first video I did was no budget: about
$500.00, shot on a video camera. No body saw
that one. You can do cool stuff. Low budget
doesn't necessarily mean bad video. The technology
is there. People can edit now at home, and you
can get a HD camera for pretty cheap. You can
shoot, and if you shoot it the right way, it's
going to look gritty. Gritty is hot. My man
Aaron A is doing that kind of stuff. His videos
are dope because they represent the people that
are in them. They represent the song and the
stuff that is there. It doesn't mean bad; you
just have to be smart about it. Using that camera
and that kind of stuff, don't try to make it
look like it's a Hype Williams video, because
it's not going to look like it. Then people
will start calling you out.
HHC: Oh okay. That's neat.
You've have been nominated for the past 3 years
at the MMVA's and this year you were nominated
for 12 Much Music Video Awards, taking home
4 of them. How did you feel and what was the
most exciting category?
It was great. Shit when you win it's crazy.
It's a beautiful thing. It's like winning the
lottery. You probably saw me drunk on stage,
but it was great. The most exciting nomination
for me was Director of the Year.
HHC: Did you take that
home?
Yes, yes I did.
HHC: Very good. Were you
drunk at that point?
(Laughing) No, I was sober for that one. I made
sure I didn't drink for that one. After I got
that trophy that was it for me. But man, Director
of the Year, that's the best win right there.
HHC: What were some other
Directors that were nominated?
There's a director named Micah who had an outstanding
video. There's also Sean Michael Turell, who
also had an outstanding video.
HHC: You have worked with
great Canadian talent like Point Blank, Neverending
White Lights, Jelleestone Kardinal Offishall,
Massari, Divine Brown, Choclair, Shawn Desman,
as well as artists like Talib Kweli and Sean
Paul. You also recently co-directed Xzibit's
new video with Little X. What has been the most
memorable shoot for you?
That's a crazy question. I don't know. All of
the video shoots are pretty memorable. The vibe
on the set of "Everyday Rudeboy" was
ill. Mad people, everyone was excited and dressed
different. The Xzibit shoot was hot too. I got
like one hour of sleep the night before so I
was wired. It was a cool shoot and Xzibit was
mad cool. Neverending White Lights was cool
too.
HHC: What are some difficult things that you've
had to deal with on set? Like people not showing
up on time and things along those lines?
People not showing up on time. You have to understand
that this is a business and even though it looks
like fun, it's not! On the shoot day is serious.
If s dude has got to be there at 5 in the morning,
the dude has got to be there at 5 in the morning.
I'm not fucking around. That's a big thing.
A lot of people complain and say that there
is a lot of sitting around. Yes, you may not
be used all the time but when we need you, you
have to be ready. Time is money on set. Every
hour on the set costs me $300 x 10 crewmembers
= $3000.00 an hour. I have to pay these guys
by the hour. If you're at McDonalds when I need
you on set, you're screwed. That's how important
it is.
HHC: There are a lot of
people out there who are aspiring directors
or film crew types. Do you have any advice for
them on how to get into the industry?
Network, network, network. There's always something
happening. There are always some low budget
videos being shot. That's the best stuff. Go
to something like that, find out whom the producer
is and get in touch with him. Say you want to
help and you don't care what you do, and DON'T
CARE WHAT YOU DO. When you're there you meet
people and you can get on a next set. You see
me on the street say what's up. I'm always walking
around Toronto. Come say what's up. If you want
to help out, let me know. I can't do everyone's
video, but I'm an approachable dude.
HHC: What are some of
your projects for the rest of 2006 and 2007?
Anything you can give us scoop on?
I can't really reveal that. I am booked. I am
a busy guy. I have 7 things to shoot before
the end of October.
Editor's note:
For more information on RT! Please visit http://www.235films.com
or check out his MySpace page at http://www.myspace.com/rtzzle.